the man asked jesus who is my neighbor jesus stated the one who acts mercifully toward other humans.
not good enough for watchtower neighbor must fit in three catagories only according to yesterdays wt wow changed the words of the son of god.
Lanalonger.
I must say Cognitive Dissonance really does have a hold on you.
I was like you, I looked for every and any conceivable reason to justify the actions of the Magnificent Seven.
It took me a long time to realize how strong Cognitive Dissonance can be.
But I am happy for you that you are open to discussion, keep it up, and you may realize that you are being manipulated and used.
the man asked jesus who is my neighbor jesus stated the one who acts mercifully toward other humans.
not good enough for watchtower neighbor must fit in three catagories only according to yesterdays wt wow changed the words of the son of god.
"I was fuming during that meeting yesterday."
Solution: Stop going.
given: the prophecy is true.. what did jesus mean?
i have an app that alerts me of any earthquake all over the world.
since i got the app, it is one earthquake after another all over the world.
Earthquakes were recorded on Mars
that made me giggle, not criticizing in anyway
But is "Marsquakes" valid?
given: the prophecy is true.. what did jesus mean?
i have an app that alerts me of any earthquake all over the world.
since i got the app, it is one earthquake after another all over the world.
A couple of years ago I had to install a very sensitive instrument in an Earth Quake Zone just a couple of miles from an actual "Fault".
So I researched on the Internet, "Faults", "Earthquakes" and "Seismic Activity", up until that point I had always believed that "Earthquakes" were increasing, I believed the JW propaganda. Now I know that I was lied too, there is nothing unusual about the amount and intensity of Earthquakes today, it is just scaremongering to keep the R&F in line.
Here is the link:
hi i am new to posting on this forum, i posted my first post today .
some people are concerned i may have shared too much in my post and are worried this could get me in trouble.
saying that, if the elders are searching on here, there is a chance that my letter could be found, and my comments used to incriminate me.
I new this guy when I first became a JW, he was about 7 years old at the time.
Here is the chat we had on Facebook, if anything is added I will add to the OP.
Happy New Year Friend .
21:37
Friend
Happy New Year, DF... all going well with you?
DF
Yes. No longer have anything to do with JWs. So the World is geate. Hope things r ok wirh you.
Friend
Ah, how come? Yes, everthing is great here, 4 Kids, still unmarried, and things running quit smoothly smile emoticon
DF
Jwfacts.com. mainly the phedofiles within the organisation are protected by the elders in all the congregations as decreed by the GB.
Friend
Hmm, as to my oppinion, particularly in the matters of child abuse the one-witness-confession should do, thats correct... but as you know, its one little aspect or lets say incident, which is used to gain any objection against the jw´s... as to matters of cild abuse in itself, that would be new to me, that something like that ever happend...
Friend
correction, had happened, and the truth never been found out..
DF
Candice Conti and go from there. Child abuse is pandemic with JWs. Google "Australian Royal Commission, Jehovahs Witnesses"
Friend
quiete a compicated subject...
complicated
DF
It is complicated, thats why the JW leadership does not want its members to research such matters. Keep them busy in Field Service, Meetings, Study, etc. etc. IT is all part of the indoctrination and controlling its members. I fell for it for 29 years.
Friend
Somehow it makes sense, yes, like the Catholics did wih their members, even the people in a whole, such as " was ich nicht weiss, macht mich nicht heiss", but... due to the internet everone can make the researches, if they are interested in it, and to my unterstanding, one who reseaches may also find out, the cases were won by thes two Kids, due to false testemony (I cant really say, cause i dont know the cases), even if they won rightfully, those "elders" most surely were disfellowshipped and maybe even still be... Ok, may sound as if i am defending the jw´s, quite awkward, as i am not going to meetings myself for 21 years now... i left, cause my mom forced me to do so, she also kept the information from me, that i had the cjoice, nt with the age of 18, but since 14... why she did that i still have no answer, but as i am a parent myself, i raise my kids to be nice people you love to have around you, you know, i honestly have to say, i dont know who i would be now if i hadnt the jw background... i surely wouldnt be the person i am now..
Friend
i have lived a complete other life the last 21 years, somtimes hard, sometimes not, as life goes... and i hate to admit that, i slowly but surely get the glimpse of what Mom wanted to teach me, but i learned it the hard way...
nothing is left to chance, everxthing happening is happening for a purpose, that is what my experience tought me, and i wont tell my mom, i tink she knows already, i also have to admit, that MAYBE she was right, with the time of the end, etc.
DF
Sure the moral upbringing of JWs is good, I do not question that at all. I do not say that is bad, and I am really happy that you are a stable loving adult and attribute that to the JW upbringing is fine. JWs on the whole are fine people, good and honest, but unfortunately grossly misled. Its is all about mind control and the JW organisation do that really well, I mean they are real experts. Only when you step back and distance yourself from the organisation and reevaluate with the organisation with common sense do you realise how absurd the whole thing is.
Friend
ok, agreed, that may be, they are all imperfect, mistakes have been made and are being made, to me its more the whole thing its about... i vahe made the step back, taking a objective look witht he question: Allright, who tells me, that THEY are the only one to survive, if there will be an Armageddon? Answer is, no ne, but myself, its a question of believing... believing the message, or did you ever question, that you are believing in the wrong thing?
DF
I never questioned it at all. Only when I researched how much money the Organisation has, did I stumble on the phedophiles, the membership with the UNO, owning 50 % shares in the company that produces the engine for the Predator drone, environmental pollution, owning shares in many companies that deal in weapons, that deal in porno films, the list of sins is endless and that can all be found on the Internet. But the organisation says everything on the Internet is lies, do not believe a word that can be read on the Internet, end practically every JW avoids the Internet because they are ordered to do so by the organisation. Or should we say the Borg and the JWs are the drones, incapable of thinking for themselves because independent thinking is a sin.
Friend
I have to say, i never researched that, how the organisation makes the money, especially when it came up in the old days, that the publications are for free... but i can hardly believe they are having their fingers in businesses as quoted... and you know for yourself, information no matter wherefrom must be 100% proven, just telling, this an that is a fact is merely thin to me, there must be more solid proof for me. and if they are making money with stock exchange etc. etc., really... why not? i would do so aswell, problem is winning and loosing is a chance 50/50, money always makes money, even on a slower scale... i think that you find more negative moneymaking, if you research that on the catholics or worse, scientology... surprisingly, everybody knows, HOW they make money, and no one cares actually... also no option for me to join either of them, cause they teach things i wouldnt even think of telling my kids, especially the scientology or the mormons... catholics dont even kow what they are teaching in their churches du to lack of bible knowledge... smile emoticon
DF
I never accept everything I read on the Internet, I need verification, documents, and they are available, if you want I can send you the documents, of course I downloaded them them the Internet. As for making money on the Finance Markets that is fine and that is not the problem. The problem is buying share in companies that produce weapon systems and porno film, as a Christian that is morally questionable, or does buying shares not count?. Imagine a publisher buying shares in Raythorn, Northrop Grumman and Rheinmettal, Krauss Maffai or RUAG or any other Weapons company and telling the elders, he would be disfellowshipped, but that is OK for the GB, and what about porno, can you imagine holding share in a company that produces porno films, and that basically is what the GB has done with contributions. Tell me is that really Jehovah's servants, does he approve of that? That cannot be attributed to a mistake, that was a deliberate, calculated ploy. And all that is kept secret from the rank and file JW.
so as many know....ive been df'd goin on 19 years already.
i drive pops to meetings, and drop him off on saturdays for fs.. well yesterday, the elders ask to speak to me, and tell me that if i plan on returning to jehovah, i had better shave my beard off..
omg!!!!!!
There was an old couple (now deceased) in my last congregation that were not able to attend meetings, they were hardly ever visited by their JW children (one a pioneer) and the elders were very rarely seen. They were looked after by a fellow apostate and his JW (critical) wife.
Good for you Brandnew that you honour your father.
.99 cents a month.
https://www.youtube.com/user/jwmeetings/featured.
What expenses do you have in Filed Service apart from the coffee breaks? After all petrol(gas) is really cheap now.
